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jxyzobrien Offline

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Other Comments: heart checked out ok, lung capacity weaker

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Location: clearwater florida

Post: #1
fixing open mouth
My cpap machine has actually made my sleep apnea worse. I finally got hold
of someone today. I gave it a couple of weeks. She said the air coming
out of machine is coming out of my mouth so i am not getting the proper
treatment. So i will go down thursday and get a chin strap

Please comment, thanks
04-26-2016 06:29 PM
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Dawei Offline

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Machine: ResMed S9 AutoSet
Mask Type: Other
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CPAP Pressure: 10-20
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Began CPAP in 2006; spent the first 6 years with a "brick"

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Location: Western North Carolina

Post: #2
RE: fixing open mouth
Sorry, but I've never heard of a machine making one's apnea worse. Apneas are created in the body, not in the machine. Since your profile shows a full face mask (which covers the mouth), it may be that mouth air leaks are happening because your open mouth while sleeping is breaking the mask's seal on your face, allowing air to leak from the mask.
Knowing your specific machine would help as would data from Sleepyhead software to pin down the nature of your leaks. The model of your S9 Resmed machine should appear just above the power button. Also knowing the pressure setting or pressure range of your machine would also help to i.d. what's going on more specifically.
About chin straps; they don't force your mouth closed, but the amount of pressure they apply is to hopefully suggest to your brain that you keep your mouth closed. They work for some, but not for everyone. However, it's definitely worth a try.

David
04-26-2016 07:10 PM
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FrankNichols Offline

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CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments: I've figured out how to get my AHI down to 5, I quit sleeping!

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Post: #3
RE: fixing open mouth
Actually there are several ways a PAP machine can cause Apneas to get worse, especially Centrals.

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04-26-2016 07:24 PM
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OpalRose Offline

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Machine: PR System One REMstar Auto 560 with A Flex
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Post: #4
RE: fixing open mouth
It would be helpful if you would fill out your profile.

Are you using an Auto CPAP?
What is the name of your mask?
What pressure is your machine set on?
What software are you using?

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04-26-2016 07:24 PM
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0rangebear Offline

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Post: #5
RE: fixing open mouth
Welcome
It is not uncommon for people to get worse b4 they get better when starting therapy-I did:Hammer
But don't give up, try the chin strap, there will be many more ideas that come form the forum, some will work and others-not so much
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(04-26-2016 06:29 PM)jxyzobrien Wrote:  My cpap machine has actually made my sleep apnea worse.
Please comment, thanks
Vomit
Please follow Opalrose's advice and resister for the forum, post your info, and some data from your machine. She has helped many a lost soul. Dreaming

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Observations and recommendations communicated here are the perceptions of the writer and should not be misconstrued as medical advice.
04-26-2016 08:15 PM
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jxyzobrien Offline

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Machine: resmed s9 series
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CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: heart checked out ok, lung capacity weaker

Sex: Male
Location: clearwater florida

Post: #6
RE: fixing open mouth
(04-26-2016 07:24 PM)OpalRose Wrote:  It would be helpful if you would fill out your profile.

Are you using an Auto CPAP?
What is the name of your mask?
What pressure is your machine set on?
What software are you using?

I switched to nasal mask. woke up gasping for breadth with full one.
Machine does not give much info. Except ramp time and humidity
info

I will see if info in doctors notes.

Resmed autoset s9 positive airway pressure device
don't know software or pressure


(04-26-2016 08:15 PM)0rangebear Wrote:  Welcome
It is not uncommon for people to get worse b4 they get better when starting therapy-I did:Hammer
But don't give up, try the chin strap, there will be many more ideas that come form the forum, some will work and others-not so much
Cleaver
(04-26-2016 06:29 PM)jxyzobrien Wrote:  My cpap machine has actually made my sleep apnea worse.
Please comment, thanks
Vomit
Please follow Opalrose's advice and resister for the forum, post your info, and some data from your machine. She has helped many a lost soul. Dreaming
I switched to nasal mask. woke up gasping for breadth with full one.
Machine does not give much info. Except ramp time and humidity
info

I will see if info in doctors notes.

Resmed autoset s9 positive airway pressure device
don't know software or pressure
(This post was last modified: 04-27-2016 05:41 AM by jxyzobrien.)
04-27-2016 05:39 AM
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Dawei Offline

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Machine: ResMed S9 AutoSet
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Mask Make & Model: Respironics "FitLife"
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CPAP Pressure: 10-20
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Began CPAP in 2006; spent the first 6 years with a "brick"

Sex: Male
Location: Western North Carolina

Post: #7
RE: fixing open mouth
jxyz, since your machine has the word Autoset printed above its on/off button, that means it is fully data capable (collects all sorts of detailed info during the night), and it can operate either within a range of pressures (APAP mode) or with a fixed, single pressure (CPAP mode). Info available here on Apneaboard can tell you how to access data such as the pressure or pressure range your machine is set to (as well as how to change it), what's happening with leaks, and the list goes on. That's why it has been suggested that you install Sleepyhead software to view and post some of the data being collected by the machine. One of the many settings available is to inform the machine what type of mask you are using (nasal, full face, etc).
You have a machine that provides data helpful for forum members to help you solve therapy problems and adjust to using it and gaining the desired benefits; that's all good news.

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04-27-2016 03:29 PM
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jxyzobrien Offline

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Machine: resmed s9 series
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: full mask
Humidifier: unsure
CPAP Pressure: 15
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: heart checked out ok, lung capacity weaker

Sex: Male
Location: clearwater florida

Post: #8
RE: fixing open mouth
(04-27-2016 03:29 PM)Dawei Wrote:  jxyz, since your machine has the word Autoset printed above its on/off button, that means it is fully data capable (collects all sorts of detailed info during the night), and it can operate either within a range of pressures (APAP mode) or with a fixed, single pressure (CPAP mode). Info available here on Apneaboard can tell you how to access data such as the pressure or pressure range your machine is set to (as well as how to change it), what's happening with leaks, and the list goes on. That's why it has been suggested that you install Sleepyhead software to view and post some of the data being collected by the machine. One of the many settings available is to inform the machine what type of mask you are using (nasal, full face, etc).
You have a machine that provides data helpful for forum members to help you solve therapy problems and adjust to using it and gaining the desired benefits; that's all good news.

David

still learning will do chin strap. will then see. had real problems with
face mask. doctors next week. thanks for answering
i apprecate help
04-28-2016 08:37 AM
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Post: #9
RE: fixing open mouth
jxyzo, there is a link to Sleepyhead a the top of this forum page. Just install it, in a computer that can read SD cards, and you can begin to understand whether your problems are leak related, or are a form of apnea that may actually be caused by the machine. This forum is all about learning to help yourself. To do that, you have to use the information that is available to you. Even the screen information on your machine will summarize mask fit and AHI. What are you seeing?

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04-28-2016 11:25 AM
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Post: #10
RE: fixing open mouth
I found that using a sticky lip ointment helped me keep my mouth "glued" shut - and you wake up with soft lips :-). It helps me tremendously as I use the nasal pillow. The nights I ran out of the lip stuff, I woke up with dry mouth and feeling sick all morning. When I use the lip ointment, I wake up with a fully moist mouth.
04-30-2016 01:06 PM
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