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Machine: Resmed S9 Vpap ST
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Resmed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 17.8/12.4
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Sex: Male
Location: Hell's Half Acre, Piedmont Plain, NC

Post: #21
RE: mouth breathing
I use simplus and mirage quattro ff masks, both of which used to leak until I learned to really tighten up on the straps. I do get some face marks in the a.m., but they disappear before noon. And I still get an occasional dry mouth, but it's no real bother.
06-29-2015 12:42 PM
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Joined: Jun 2015

Machine: Philips Respironics System One (60 Series) RemStar Auto with A-FlexMod
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: FP Simplus
Humidifier: PR System 1
CPAP Pressure: Min 4 Max 20 (cmH2O)
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: I've used a dental appliance for >20 years, including with my APAP.

Sex: Female
Location: USA

Post: #22
RE: mouth breathing
- Two and a half years ago I tried the Quattro. I have a small face, so it was cumbersome and kept on "farting."
- Then I was given the Resmed Mirage Liberty. Much better, but since I don't breathe through my nose while sleeping, the nasal pillows were somewhat irritating.
- Last week I bought the F&P Simplus. It fits better than the Quattro was but still leaks a bit. It does leave a mark on the bridge of my nose, though.
- I had tried on the NEW Respironics Amara View, too. I liked it, but was concerned that it would also irritate below my nose.
- So, I'm going to pay for the Amara View out-of-pocket, and intend to alternate wearing it with the days I wear the Simplus.
Hang in there!
06-29-2015 03:51 PM
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Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: ResMed AirCurve10 VAuto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: HumidAir and SlimLine Hose
CPAP Pressure: MaxI 13.6 | MinE 5.2 | PS 4.4
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Diagnosed Nov 2011. Conquered aerophagia.

Sex: Male
Location: Houston, Texas

Post: #23
RE: mouth breathing
Taping your mouth shut could lead to suffocation if the power goes out, or worse if you happen to vomit you could choke on it. Definitely not a good idea. It's a foolish practice.

A chin strap is the remedy. If that doesn't work a full face mask is necessary.

I tried a chin strap for years, but never could get it to work. Six months ago I started using a full face mask. I'm feeling much better now.

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06-29-2015 08:44 PM
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Joined: Nov 2014

Machine: REMstar System One with Autoflex
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Quattro AirFit F10
Humidifier: yes typical setting = 4
CPAP Pressure: 5-13 Autotritrating CPAP
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

Other Comments: CMS-50F Plus oximeter /w SPO2 Assistant software. Avowed mouth-breather switching to nose-breathing

Sex: Male
Location: US

Post: #24
RE: mouth breathing
I truly believe those with leaky FFMs will find it better to use cloth as sealing/gasket than rubber. Sealing against leaks is to reduce leakage to within tolerance for both comfort and machine accuracy. Cloth is kinder and gentler, and can be laundered. Problems with cloth include being more stretchy (less stable). Pick a cloth base that is stable in shape, or use an iron-on stabilizer sheet. (example - cotton tee shirt fabric with stabilizer sheet - cotton side toward cheek)

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06-29-2015 09:25 PM
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Joined: Jun 2015

Machine: ResMed Autosense 10
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Respironics Amara View FFM
Humidifier: Resmed
CPAP Pressure: 9 - 13.4
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

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Sex: Male
Location: Under The Rainbow

Post: #25
RE: mouth breathing
Hi Nativedancer,

I am having a terrible leakage problem after my max pressure setting was raised from 10 to 15 a few days ago. I will see if tightening the straps even more on my Simplus will help.

Thanks, Jeff
06-29-2015 09:43 PM
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Joined: May 2015

Machine: A 10 autoset
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: airfit p10
Humidifier: built-in , with climate line
CPAP Pressure: 6 to 12
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: I'm not really a prist...and my wife is not a nun....Halloween Costumes

Sex: Male
Location: Northeast Ohio

Post: #26
RE: mouth breathing
Thought I'd post an update....since I stopped taking the ativan and flexeril...I now take a benadryl at night...I turned my pressures down to 5 min 11 max and 3 for the exhalation relief. ...I've been doing great. ..0.2 to 1.9 on events per hr.....and no more mouth breathing....yeeeehawwwww

It's exactly like that. . . . only totally different. . . . Sleep-well
06-30-2015 06:35 AM
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Machine: ResMed S9 VPAP Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Mirage Quattro
Humidifier: H5i(distilled-top up)
CPAP Pressure: VAuto MinE14.0 MaxI 20.6 PS4.0
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

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Location: Orange County,California

Post: #27
RE: mouth breathing
Fantastic. That is great.
06-30-2015 10:21 AM
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Joined: Dec 2012

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: FitLife Total face mask
Humidifier: F&P HC150 with Hybernite heated hose.
CPAP Pressure: 15cm-20cm H2O (auto)
CPAP Software: SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments: CMS50-F wearable Oximeter; Software: SPO2 Assistant

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Location: Florida, USA.

Post: #28
RE: mouth breathing
I have been using FFM's since 2012 from the start. I had no insurance or DME at the time so I had to
try about 8 different masks before I found 2 that work well and a third that was acceptable.
I also began using WetOnes (citrus) to clean and degrease the sealing surface and my face every time.
TIghtening the straps will only get you so far.
There are also tack cloths you can use if you need to stick the mask on even better.
Once I got my leaks all iron out and got my pressures set I had eyeball extrusion problems from the pressure so
I went total face mask while keeping up with the other anti-leak procedures.
The last problem was dry mouth from the low humidity air so I kept upping the huimidity setting and added hose heat to stop
the horrible rain-out condensation.
One last problem: I would run out of water in the humidifier after 4-5 hours so I would be back to dry mouth and hacking cough in the early mornings.
Gaaaah!
I built on another humidifier with some CPVC pipe (no lead used in the plastic) so now I use about 700-900 ml of water a night
but I don't run out now with my extended range tanks.

CPAP. The machine we all love to hate.

Cheers & don't quit!

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06-30-2015 02:14 PM
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