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new user; sleep not any better
Hello all! I'm a new CPAP user, for about 2 weeks now, but have been lurking for about 3 months now on this forum. Lots of good info, and very civil/courteous. I just want to share my experience, and basically ask if it's normal.

1. I noticed that I wake up less now in the middle of the night, and my AHI is less than 5, but I feel like my eyelids feel really heavy (droopy) for the first couple of hours after waking up, but I'm not really sleepy. It was not like this before using the CPAP machine. I'm thinking I'm sleeping deeper, but I'm just guessing. Is that normal? Is there some kind of break-in period for the body to adjust to better sleep?

2. I have an S9 Autoset with humidity set to Auto, and I also noticed that my nasal passages dry out during the night, so I manually just set it to 4.5. That more or less fixed the problem. My question is for the same humidity setting of 4.5, is the air more humid at 70 degrees or 80 degrees F? I mean given for example humidity set at 80%, at what temp does the air has more moisture content, 70 or 80?

Thank you for your thoughts.
04-25-2013 06:24 PM
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Machine: Resmed S9 AutoSet for Her
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Fisher & Paykel Simplus
Humidifier: H5i Heated Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 10 - 7-20 Cm H2O
CPAP Software: Not using software

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RE: new user; sleep not any better
Hi EMD886,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
Give it some time, your body is still getting used to this new way of sleeping. Some people get used to it right away and it takes others a while.
It sounds like you have already started noticing some improvement.
Hang in there for more answers to your questions and don't give up, CPAP therapy can take LOTS of PATIENCE.

trish6hundred
04-25-2013 06:40 PM
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Machine: A10 AutoSet
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Other Comments: CPAP since Nov 2010

Sex: Male
Location: Australia

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RE: new user; sleep not any better
(04-25-2013 06:24 PM)EMD886 Wrote:  Is that normal? Is there some kind of break-in period for the body to adjust to better sleep?
Yes its normal, Everyone goes thru period of adjustment at the start of the treatment
Everyone is different, For most can take weeks or months to adjust to the therapy and body to heal after years of sleep deprivation
Its called "Sleep Debt". Will always be some problems along the way but there,re solutions to most problems

Tips for new CPAP users .. Avoiding 10 common problems
http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...CPAP_users

Climate Control Auto
In Auto mode, you have the ability to adjust air temperature (61-86°F (16-30°C)) depending on preference. Based on your selected air temperature, Climate Control automatically adjusts the humidifier output to maintain a constant, comfortable humidity level of 80% relative humidity while protecting against rainout. In Auto mode the default air temperature is set to 80°F (27°C)
http://www.resmed.com/au/assets/document...lo_eng.pdf
(This post was last modified: 04-25-2013 06:51 PM by zonk.)
04-25-2013 06:48 PM
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Machine: S9 VPAP Adapt (USA Model# 36007, not better 36037 or 36067)
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RE: new user; sleep not any better
(04-25-2013 06:24 PM)EMD886 Wrote:  My question is for the same humidity setting of 4.5, is the air more humid at 70 degrees or 80 degrees F? I mean given for example humidity set at 80%, at what temp does the air has more moisture content, 70 or 80?

Hi EMD886, welcome to the forum!

Relative humidity is defined as the percentage of moisture held in the air relative to its moisture-holding capacity.

The moisture-holding capacity of air increases as the temperature rises.

So if operating the humidifier in Auto mode (that is, with Climateline hose), the moisture content of the air you are breathing will be highest using the highest hose temperature setting.

When you are operating humidifier in Manual mode but with Climateline hose, hose temperature setting will not influence how much moisture the humidifier delivers into the air, but if the hose temperature is too low there could be rain-out (condensation) inside the hose, which could encourage growth of bacteria or mold unless hose is well dried out daily by taking it off the machine and hanging it out to dry.

Take care,
--- Vaughn

Membership in the Advisory Member group should not be understood as in any way implying medical expertise or qualification for advising Sleep Apnea patients concerning their treatment. The Advisory Member group provides advice and suggestions to Apnea Board administrators and staff on matters concerning Apnea Board operation and administrative policies - not on matters concerning treatment for Sleep Apnea. I think it is now too late to change the name of the group but I think Voting Member group would perhaps have been a more descriptive name for the group.
(This post was last modified: 04-29-2013 01:10 AM by vsheline.)
04-29-2013 01:04 AM
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RE: new user; sleep not any better
There is another trick to dry the hose out without taking off the line - empty out the humidifier tank and put it back. Remove the data card (should be a CF card around the back) and turn off both the humidifier and the auto on settings in your program menu. Then simply let the machine run for half an hour or so, and Robert is your Uncle, you have a dry tank, hose and everything else. No risk of bacteria or mushrooms. The air passing through the system at pressure is dry enough when there is no moisture form the tank to dry out everything neatly.

As for the heavy eyes, there are two things going on - the first is that you are getting used to a new sleeping pattern, which actually can make you feel worse for a time, no worries there, it just takes a while (sleep debt is a myth, nothing more - the brain is making an adjustment to your sleeping pattern after years of having another pattern, there is nothing to "pay back"), and second, the pressure from your mask is enough to sometimes cause disturbance in the sinus and regions around the eyes, causing a heavy, sticky feeling to the eyelids. Nothing to worry about - usually it goes away, sometimes lowering the top pressure will fix that otherwise.
04-29-2013 04:15 AM
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