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#71
RE: periodic leg movement
I litterally taped my lips, avoiding all the hair. Think of it as applying chapstick, only with tape.

Keep in mind the concept is not to keep the mouth shut, that jaw is just too strong to do that, but to seal the air in. I can almost always easily slip my tongue between my upper and lower teeth.
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#72
RE: periodic leg movement
A nice thin strip, ok. That makes sense. I've been going with the wide tape approach, but yes, no tape will overcome my overly used jaw.

Thanks,
D.
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#73
RE: periodic leg movement
sheepless, even if the only skin contact would be your lips it might be worthwhile to try a small piece to cover only them if you find some method for pressing the gel strip against them that will not slip down and relax inward pressure on the strip.

 My adaptation works well with lots of direct skin contact area below the line from bottom of earlobes to 1/4 inch below bottom of the nasal openings divider. 

I think retainer-to-gel-backing friction, together with the clinging property of the gel, keeps the retainer up where it is needed. But that may not be true and there may be other ways to maintain pressure against the lips and reduce slippage of your retainer.

If you get to the point where you want to try the gel strip, PM an address along with dimensions of the enclosing rectangle that would fully cover your  exposed lips. I have enough new material for up to a 2 x 4 inch sample .

Good luck finding some solution. Leaks drive you mad and steal sleep even if below 25 L/min--drove this FFM-prescribed mouth breather to find a way to use P10 nasal pillows and the bleep, "things that won't work" for my kind.

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#74
RE: periodic leg movement
"You are taping the lips, not the beard anyway."

yep, that pretty much describes the problem! thin lips, virtually no exposed skin around them to secure tape to. won't stick to whiskers.
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