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worn_out_in_lebanon Offline

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Machine: Resmed A10 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F20 (newest Resmed ffm)
Humidifier: Included, ClimateLine tubing
CPAP Pressure: 13-15, EPR:0
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: I.T. Project Manager. Started CPAP therapy March 16, 2015. Untreated AHI 39.

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Location: TN

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persistent leak point - skin tac an option?
I have a Resmed Quattro Air. (for now anyway, a P10 coming next week to try)

There is one point that always leaks. The low spot between the cheek and the nose, on my left side.

I ran the mask too tight the first two nights. I ran it looser the third and fourth nights, but it leaked off and on, all night. Worse later in the night as my face started getting oily again.

And even with the mask looser, across the top of my nose I'm still getting an indentation. And pain that lasts all day the next day.

I've heard some people use Skin Tac wipes to get a better seal, but haven't found much information on this. Does it work well? Does it affect the lifespan of the seal?
03-20-2015 09:45 AM
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Machine: PRS1 D560TS
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: ResMed P10, Bkup: Airfit F10 & Quattro Air
Humidifier: PRS1 60 series with Heated Tube
CPAP Pressure: 8 - 8 w/ Aflex 3
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Using APAP mode with fixed pressure

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RE: persistent leak point - skin tac an option?
It happens because of the forehead anchor on the Quattro Air. You can buy the headgear and frame of a Resmed F10 and use the same cushion as QAir. On the F10, the anchors have moved down to the cheeks. They will give you a better seal in the area that you mentioned.

I have used both successfully but on the QAir, it needed a lot more tightening for me. I could wear the F10 very loose and not have big leaks.

Although now, I am on a P10.

Started APAP 4-20, Closed range to 7.5-14, then straight 8.0 w/ Aflex 3
RDI always below 1. But sleep much much better at straight pressure.
Started on F10, Tried Quattro Air successfully. Finally settled on P10.
03-20-2015 10:15 AM
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Machine: PR system one 560p auto with a flex
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Location: Lake View, NY

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RE: persistent leak point - skin tac an option?
I've had problems with the "frosted" silicone and face oils with the Quattro air, and switched it to the mirage Quattro which has a tackier silicone. My leak problems were solved by that easy change, but YMMV.
03-21-2015 06:57 PM
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worn_out_in_lebanon Offline

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Machine: Resmed A10 Autoset
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Mask Make & Model: F20 (newest Resmed ffm)
Humidifier: Included, ClimateLine tubing
CPAP Pressure: 13-15, EPR:0
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: I.T. Project Manager. Started CPAP therapy March 16, 2015. Untreated AHI 39.

Sex: Male
Location: TN

Post: #4
RE: persistent leak point - skin tac an option?
Tried the skin tac wipes last night. They made my fingertips stickier than my face... I was trying to figure out how to put on the mask, turn on the machine, etc. without using my fingertips, but there's no good way. Smile

Had a great seal for the first couple of hours, airtight even while moving around. Later in the night I still had leaks as the oil came back. If I didn't have oily skin I would have probably had a good seal all night.

Even so, I had a record best AHI so far of 8.2 last night, so that's a good sign. Only 3 OA's and 3 HA's. The rest CA's.
03-23-2015 07:07 AM
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