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[split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
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RE27: [split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
Thank you SpyCar!  In addition to no apneas (including those dreaded clusters central apneas) the mask flow rate is a lot smoother :-)
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RE: [split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
Sounds like you finally have the right machine. Congrats!
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RE: [split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
i am jealous of that sleepy head chart. the flow rates just look so smooth and consistent! Congrats!
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RE: [split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
that's an awesome chart waldo!
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RE: [split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
like Congrats on finally getting on the ASV. Best wishes that successes continue.
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RE28: [split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
Thank you all for your congratulations and assistance on my journey to get an ASV machine.  A special thank you to Sleeprider who knew the answer to my question on the very first page of this series of posts.  I asked if my Aircurve 10 Vauto would eliminate my clusters of central apneas as I seemed to be able to adjust the machine to do so.  Sleeprider pointed out that my flow rates were still erratic indicating that I still had an underlying problem.  Further that the best solution was an ASV machine.  That turned out to be true for me.

I have posted one of my worst recent Sleepyhead charts showing my clusters of central apnea problem and the chart from last night with my first seven hours of continuous sleep in over ten years using the ASV machine for the first time.  Until now getting and using this Resmed Aircurve 10 ASV machine, I was lucky to get three hours of sleep and not very good sleep. 

Yesterday was our 52nd wedding anniversary and other than my wife, this ASV machine is the best gift I could have received.  I will mortgage the house to keep this machine if my insurance refuses to pay for it after recently paying for my Aircurve 10 Vauto.  I slept another three hours without central apneas after the initial seven shown on the below Sleepyhead chart.  Whoever designed this ASV machine knew how to solve my central apnea sleep problem.

I believe I have also learned that central apneas are a symptom of a problem. If so, my new ASV machine as solved the symptom from a sleep perspective but not from what is really causing my central apneas.  So now is the time to mention that I have Crohns disease.  I have had five operations over a three year period that eventually removed most of my colon.  It still did not solve my pain problem so I am taking opioid prescription drugs to reduce the constant abdominal pain.  These are known to cause central apneas.  I am not one of those addicted to the opiods and am thankful for them reducing my pain.  They have improved my quality of life as I believe this new ASV machine will also accomplish.


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RE: [split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
Glad I could make a difference in your life. Go enjoy it with your wife of 52 years and congrats to you both.
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RE: RE28: [split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
(08-08-2018, 11:29 AM)waldo1945 Wrote: Thank you all for your congratulations and assistance on my journey to get an ASV machine.  A special thank you to Sleeprider who knew the answer to my question on the very first page of this series of posts.  I asked if my Aircurve 10 Vauto would eliminate my clusters of central apneas as I seemed to be able to adjust the machine to do so.  Sleeprider pointed out that my flow rates were still erratic indicating that I still had an underlying problem.  Further that the best solution was an ASV machine.  That turned out to be true for me.

I have posted one of my worst recent Sleepyhead charts showing my clusters of central apnea problem and the chart from last night with my first seven hours of continuous sleep in over ten years using the ASV machine for the first time.  Until now getting and using this Resmed Aircurve 10 ASV machine, I was lucky to get three hours of sleep and not very good sleep. 

Yesterday was our 52nd wedding anniversary and other than my wife, this ASV machine is the best gift I could have received.  I will mortgage the house to keep this machine if my insurance refuses to pay for it after recently paying for my Aircurve 10 Vauto.  I slept another three hours without central apneas after the initial seven shown on the below Sleepyhead chart.  Whoever designed this ASV machine knew how to solve my central apnea sleep problem.

I believe I have also learned that central apneas are a symptom of a problem. If so, my new ASV machine as solved the symptom from a sleep perspective but not from what is really causing my central apneas.  So now is the time to mention that I have Crohns disease.  I have had five operations over a three year period that eventually removed most of my colon.  It still did not solve my pain problem so I am taking opioid prescription drugs to reduce the constant abdominal pain.  These are known to cause central apneas.  I am not one of those addicted to the opiods and am thankful for them reducing my pain.  They have improved my quality of life as I believe this new ASV machine will also accomplish.


While i have never had central apnea clusters as bad as what you've shown there, i feel like i am in sort of the same boat as you. I've been able to "eliminate" my centrals that i have using my Vauto machine on most night by using the very high trigger and cycle settings, but i never feel that well rested when i wake up and my flow rates always seem to be all over the place throughout the night.  Some nights i have a great AHI, and other nights it's 8-12.  I just want to know if an ASV machine would work better for me than what i have.  This is my overview since i bought the Vauto machine and Jun 29th is where i first tried the very high trigger setting.


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RE30: [split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
Hi Jgrizz80, Your post sounds very similar to my first post on Page 1 of this string.  I too was able to "eliminate" my central apneas by making adjustments to my then Aircruve 10 Vauto BPAP.  So please go back to the first page of this string and review Sleeprider's comments.  If you look at his history on this site, he has over 10,000 posts in almost four years and is on the advisory board for Sleepyhead design.  He is more capable to answer your question than I.

In looking at your posted chart, I notice that you have been very faithful in using your machine (same setups as my previous machine), are sleeping on average seven hours a day and having relatively view apneas.  You also say that you "purchased" your current machine which is not cheap.  Mine would have cost $1,810 if I paid the insurance cost or over $2,500 if I had purchased it outright on the Internet or used.  So switching from your current machine to an ASV machine needs to be balanced with the benefit relative to your cost.  Your Aircurve 10 Vauto is an excellent machine.

While my central apnea chart is much worse than you are experiencing, it is one of my worst charts.  My centrals were only happening about a third of the days each month and not always as severe as what I posted.  My main problem was being unable to sleep more than three hours at a time and always feeling tired.  Switching to the ASV machine appears to have solved my three hour at a time sleep problem but I need more than one night's experience to determine if it helps the quality of my sleep.

I strongly urge you to post the Sleepyhead charts in the style and order that Sleeprider requests on any one of his above posts.  It will be much easier for him to advise you.  Your centrals may not be severe enough to warrant the cost of an ASV machine and there may be better settings that you can use on your aircurve 10 Vauto to help the quality of your sleep.  Everybody is different and has different circumstances.  Sleeprider is excellent at giving personalized advice.  Paul T.
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RE: RE30: [split] ResMed AirCurve 10 VAuto vs ASV to Treat Central Apnea
(08-08-2018, 01:30 PM)waldo1945 Wrote: Hi Jgrizz80, Your post sounds very similar to my first post on Page 1 of this string.  I too was able to "eliminate" my central apneas by making adjustments to my then Aircruve 10 Vauto BPAP.  So please go back to the first page of this string and review Sleeprider's comments.  If you look at his history on this site, he has over 10,000 posts in almost four years and is on the advisory board for Sleepyhead design.  He is more capable to answer your question than I.

In looking at your posted chart, I notice that you have been very faithful in using your machine (same setups as my previous machine), are sleeping on average seven hours a day and having relatively view apneas.  You also say that you "purchased" your current machine which is not cheap.  Mine would have cost $1,810 if I paid the insurance cost or over $2,500 if I had purchased it outright on the Internet or used.  So switching from your current machine to an ASV machine needs to be balanced with the benefit relative to your cost.  Your Aircurve 10 Vauto is an excellent machine.

While my central apnea chart is much worse than you are experiencing, it is one of my worst charts.  My centrals were only happening about a third of the days each month and not always as severe as what I posted.  My main problem was being unable to sleep more than three hours at a time and always feeling tired.  Switching to the ASV machine appears to have solved my three hour at a time sleep problem but I need more than one night's experience to determine if it helps the quality of my sleep.

I strongly urge you to post the Sleepyhead charts in the style and order that Sleeprider requests on any one of his above posts.  It will be much easier for him to advise you.  Your centrals may not be severe enough to warrant the cost of an ASV machine and there may be better settings that you can use on your aircurve 10 Vauto to help the quality of your sleep.  Everybody is different and has different circumstances.  Sleeprider is excellent at giving personalized advice.  Paul T.

Thanks, I actually have a thread i started a while back but haven't updated it too much lately.  Sleeprider has actually given me a lot of info but i don't udpate often enough and i think my thread gets shuffled to the bottom.  As far as purchasing my machine outright, originally my insurace gave me a brick Airsense 10, so i purchased my Vauto used with 200 hours for only $300, so i'm not too far out of pocket now.  I probably wouldn't purchase an ASV outright unless i found one for the right price, but maybe enough sleepyhead data would show that i would be better off with one.  I'm actually going to update my thread now after testing the trigger and cycle settings out more last night, and it's  crazy how much different it is between the 2 settings.  

Honestly going back to your first post, your story sounds very similar to mine, except i don't have much data from when i was using the brick for 8 months.  i constantly had a varying AHI with that machine from 3 to 12 depending on the night, most of which i still think were centrals, but i'll never really know.
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