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carolynn Offline

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Post: #1
water in the line?
this morning, there were a lot of water droplets all thru the line, and just now, when I took the hose off of the back of the machine a whole puddle of water came out. I took the mask off this morning and didn't pay attention to it , so I don't know if this was there all night, or the condensation was maybe during the cool down cycle?? It was cold last night and my room may have been 65..
I do not have a heated hose, do I need one? do I lower the humidity? It was set at 3 last night..
Sure don't want to drown trying to breath better Sad
04-04-2013 11:34 AM
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Shastzi Offline

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Post: #2
RE: water in the line??
You wont drown, since you'll wake up when the first spray of cold water its you in the nose. =O.O=
I use a Hybernite heated hose for the job. Shop around and you can pick one up for about $50.
I used to use a ClimateLine by ResMed but never could get it working right.
(either I'd get condensate in the hose or it would give me the dry mouth bit. )

I always check for moisture build up every morning just to see if the hoses need to be mopped out & dryed inside.
I was getting some moisture last night and that was with room at 76-77 degrees F.

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04-04-2013 01:00 PM
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Post: #3
RE: water in the line??
Hi carolynn,
I have the "ClimateLine" hose and am very content wit it. If you don't want to get that, you could either make a tubewrap out of ol socks, (by cutting out the toes and sewing several of them together,) to cover your tube or you can purchase one already made, (there are several different brands out there,) you can see them at suppliers on the supplier list on the board.
Best of luck to you wi that.

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04-04-2013 02:39 PM
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Shastzi Offline

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RE: water in the line??
Humm. A cozy for the hose would be the first & lowest cost thing to try. Wink

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04-04-2013 03:38 PM
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Post: #5
RE: water in the line??
Lemme 'splain what's happening:

The water in the hose is just like the outside of a soda can when you take it out of the fridge on a warm summer day. Except for the hose, it's on the inside.

The humid air coming from the humidifier is warmer than the air in your bedroom which makes the hose get cold. The humid air cools slightly so the water settles out of the air onto the hose. This is called "rainout". The water can puddle in the low places of the hose. When enough of it puddles, the air from the machine can make the water "gurgle". It can be quite loud and will make your dog bark.

By keeping the hose warm--either by a heated hose or a cover over the hose--condensation is much less.

You won't drown, there's not enough there to do it. The worst case scenario is condensation forms in the mask then either drips into or gets blown into your nose. It can burn like the beejeebers because of the difference in pH.

If your bedroom is cold in the winter, then a heated hose is a great thing to have. Since starting using one, I've had no gurgling at all. However, it doesn't keep my mask's hose warm and I get condensation there. I often get woken up to a baptism in progress. The air blows water droplets out the exhaust port and then splashes down on me. In the summer, when the bedroom is warmer, you probably won't need the climateline.

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04-04-2013 06:08 PM
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Post: #6
RE: water in the line??
$50 for the heated hose is worth every penny. Put on auto, select temp to preference and protects against rainout
Hose cosy will help together with placing the machine lower than your bed and not over fill the tank, just fill a bit below the top line
04-04-2013 10:10 PM
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Post: #7
RE: water in the line??
Thumbs up for heated hose

I have never had a rainout issue since getting one with my S9 Autoset.
My older machine didn't have that option and I woke up @ 3am to a very cold shower in my nose .... Not a fun experience at all.
I thought I was drowning at first until I realized what happened.
04-05-2013 10:06 AM
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Shastzi Offline

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Post: #8
RE: water in the line??
Nothing like a splash of cold water in your snout early in the morning!

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04-05-2013 12:03 PM
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Post: #9
RE: water in the line??
(04-04-2013 01:00 PM)Shastzi Wrote:  I used to use a ClimateLine by ResMed but never could get it working right.
(either I'd get condensate in the hose or it would give me the dry mouth bit. )

I believe you know the answer but just a reminder -- there should not be any rainout if you have it set to "Auto" - if you have it set to "Manual" then not only is it more flexible but you're possibly at risk for rainout. OTHERWISE it would indicate your ClimateLine was malfunctioning.
04-05-2013 07:13 PM
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Post: #10
RE: water in the line??
My experience with condensation in the hose is (F&P Icon Auto at around 14cm and all the humidity it will give me) that it "bumps" as it blocks an opening and gets pushed out. I have been slightly baptised by a few condensation drops exiting the vent.

My solution was to wrap the hose in an ace bandage and keep it under the pillow and the covers. But I also told my DME, and now have a nice, warm heated hose in bed with me. I still want a cozy for the mask, and possibly for the hose too, as when it gets warm, I won't want that warm hose in my bed.
04-07-2013 01:02 PM
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