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Oracle mask - gak - 08-21-2012
Has anyone tried this oral mask? I got one prior to nasal passage surgery, but the pressure is far too high. Do they require readjusting the pressure?
RE: Oracle mask - PaulaO2 - 08-21-2012
Links to products on the manufacturer's site are allowed. Just not links to retailers.
http://www.fphcare.com/osa/mask-solution/oral-masks/Pages$oracle-oral-mask.html
Wow, that's an odd mask.
As for the pressure change, I'm not sure, but I would assume not. There would not be for the hybrid masks (part nasal pillow, part oral mask).
RE: Oracle mask - PollCat - 08-21-2012
I must be missing something. What prevents the air from going out the nose? Maybe you can only use this mask if your nasal passages are 100% blocked?!?!
RE: Oracle mask - gak - 08-21-2012
(08-21-2012, 03:11 PM)bobg1946 Wrote: I must be missing something. What prevents the air from going out the nose? Maybe you can only use this mask if your nasal passages are 100% blocked?!?!
Nasal plugs or surgical tape.
RE: Oracle mask - zonk - 08-21-2012
(08-21-2012, 03:11 PM)bobg1946 Wrote: I must be missing something. What prevents the air from going out the nose? Maybe you can only use this mask if your nasal passages are 100% blocked?!?!Nose plugs included with the mask but it can leaks. It can be alternative to full face mask for some people with nose blockage problems.
The biggest aggravation that most people seem to report is drooling and dry mouth.
RE: Oracle mask - trish6hundred - 08-21-2012
Hi gak, First of all, WELCOME! to the forum.! AS far as that mask you mention in the post, I' don't know anything about it but there are lots of masks out there so that's not surprising. Best of luck to you.
RE: Oracle mask - mjbearit - 08-21-2012
Interesting. I've never seen a straight oral mask before. Seems like a lot of things to overcome to make that work. I wake up sometimes with a dry mouth even if I show very low leakage! Not to mention I would be afraid nasal plugs would come flying out and I would shoot my wife in the head with a nasal plug! Dang, she would be mad! I guess since they make them there must be a market for them. Sorry Gak, I can't answer your original question.
RE: Oracle mask - archangle - 08-23-2012
The nose plugs are not required once you get used to it. In theory, at least.
There is sort of a valve at the back of your nose. Imagine trying to blow up a balloon. You have air pressure in your lungs and your mouth, but no pressure comes out of your nose.
Once you put it on and manage to close this valve, the pressure tends to keep it closed, although not everyone is successful in making this happen.
The oral mask has some very big advantages.
First, and most obvious, you don't have to breathe through your nose if you're clogged or have other nose problems.
If you can keep your nose "closed," there's very little opportunity for leaks because of the way it fits on the mouth.
More importantly, there is no pressure in your nose. You don't cause sinus pressure problems, ear problems, nasolacrimal duct problems, etc. For people with certain problems, it can avoid a lot of problems.
Now for the drawbacks:
It may be hard to adjust to having it in and on your mouth. If you don't get the right size interface, you may have pressure at bad places. It's important to NOT overtighten the adjustment for where it grabs your lips. You need to let the air inflate your lips into the mouthpiece and get a seal that way.
It tends to dry you out more, even with humidification.
The lack of airflow through your nose can be disturbing. I think you may have problems if you have nasal drainage and need the mucous to go down your throat like it normally does.
I believe there is also some feedback to your nervous system from airflow in the nose. I've heard this affects breathing and heartbeat. Of course, someone with a blocked nose would have these problems anyway.
I tried one for a bit. I did not have any problems with leakage out the nose once I figured out how to do it. Basically, I just put it on, turned on the CPAP and then sort of blew back into the machine gently like I was blowing up a balloon. Then I sort of told myself to "hold it" like that and relaxed, letting my "valve" relax and stay closed.
It dried me out too much, even with humidification, and I think I had nasal drainage problems. I never really got used to it enough to really sleep much with it.
It could really be a godsend to people with certain problems that can't be solved by other types of mask. It seems to me that it's the only mask that won't inflate your ears, sinuses, or nasolacrimal ducts.
RE: Oracle mask - gak - 08-23-2012
Did you use the same pressure setting as with a nasal mask?
RE: Oracle mask - archangle - 08-23-2012
(08-23-2012, 09:21 AM)gak Wrote: Did you use the same pressure setting as with a nasal mask?
I didn't change the pressure, but I never really slept with it that much. I don't see any particular reason it would need a different pressure, but it's possible.