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Yet another BAMBOOZLED sucker - I got a brick, now what? - Nicholas - 05-02-2017

Unfortunately, I'm another poor sucker who didn't find this forum until after I took delivery of my machine. Turns out I got a brick. Am I screwed? Would it make sense to contact my provider and let them know I'm not happy with machine and request the AutoSet? What would you do if you were in my shoes? Thanks.

FWIW, I never did see the Rx or meet with the sleep doctor who interpreted the study and made the Rx. On Thursday, I am meeting with the ENT who prescribed the sleep study.


RE: Yet another BAMBOOZLED sucker - I got a brick, now what? - Gideon - 05-02-2017

How long have you had the machine?  What are your numbers?

You can try and tell them that you thought you were getting a full data capable autoset machine and say you feel the need to get that machine and if you don't you will go to (NOT try) a different DME to get one, and mean it.  Say that your current machine IS unaccettable toy you.


RE: Yet another BAMBOOZLED sucker - I got a brick, now what? - Sleeprider - 05-02-2017

There is no harm in asking the DME, but it is your doctor that could simply change your prescription to an Auto. Explain to your doctor that without efficacy data there is no way to know how well the machine or settings are working. This handicaps both of you in assessing your condition. If he could change the Rx to Auto, you would get feedback in the form of data.

This argument becomes much stronger if you are feeling symptoms of continuing fatigue or sleepiness, or discomfort with the therapy. If you feel good, then your therapy could be working well. You just won't be able to monitor. Anyway, try to make the argument that having data benefits both you and your doctor, and there was no reason for the DME to issue this model other than it saved them a few dollars. If you can instill some uncertainty whether the therapy is working, the doctor may cooperate with an Rx revision.


RE: Yet another BAMBOOZLED sucker - I got a brick, now what? - Nicholas - 05-02-2017

Good feedback, thanks all.


RE: Yet another BAMBOOZLED sucker - I got a brick, now what? - Nicholas - 05-02-2017

I just reached out to the sleep specialist who made the Rx, and they are sending me the Rx and the sleep study results. I'm interested to see what the Rx says.


RE: Yet another BAMBOOZLED sucker - I got a brick, now what? - TASmart - 05-02-2017

You do not need an autoset, you need a data capable machine. I find I do worse with the autoset than using mine in the CPAP mode. But the date is invaluable for fine tuning my settings.


RE: Yet another BAMBOOZLED sucker - I got a brick, now what? - Gideon - 05-02-2017

You are looking for a machine that will likely be with you for at least 5 years and likely longer as a backup machine. While you may not NEED an autoset machine, it will give you more options over those years. Your treatment will likely change.


RE: Yet another BAMBOOZLED sucker - I got a brick, now what? - Nicholas - 05-02-2017

I see. So then if I want data-capable but not AutoSet, then it's the *Elite* that I'd want  (assuming I'm sticking with the ResMed AirSense 10 line), correct?

Next question: if I were to get the AutoSet, does it allow the reverting to manual, or is AutoSet the only thing it does?


RE: Yet another BAMBOOZLED sucker - I got a brick, now what? - chill - 05-02-2017

Auto machines can do both straight CPAP and the auto mode specific to them.  I run mine in CPAP and I too find it more restful.


RE: Yet another BAMBOOZLED sucker - I got a brick, now what? - OpalRose - 05-02-2017

Auto cpap can be used either way: manual cpap or auto cpap.

A manual cpap can only be used one way: cpap mode.

An auto cpap and a manual cpap falls under the same insurance code and does not cost any more.  

DME's save money by giving you the Cpap machine vs. the Auto Cpap.