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Amazing, AHI went down - Arik - 01-25-2019

Hi Guys,
 
I used to have AHI at about 10/h since I started therapy. In the last 5 nights I was using Novartis Otrivin (Xylometazoline HCL) nasal spray before bed time as I experienced blocked nose. To my surprise, AHI went down to 4/h, most of them Hypopneas events. Also, I had a great sleep.

What can I learn from this? I’m aware that I cannot continue using the nasal spray for long although the sleep quality is very attractive…
 
Thanks,
Arik


RE: Amazing, AHI went down - MitchS - 01-25-2019

Using a nasal rinse before bedtime can be beneficial.

Corticosteroid nasal sprays can be used long term. They do have some side effects and need to be used under a doctor’s supervision. It takes a couple of weeks of use for the full benefits to take effect, so they need to be used daily. I’ve been using Nasacort for a couple of years as part of a regime to prevent vertigo.


RE: Amazing, AHI went down - PaulaO2 - 01-25-2019

The part of us that is involved in apnea events is rather large. So using a nasal spray such as a steroid base would shrink the nasal passages (which can and do go all the way down to the throat) will help keep tissues from "collapsing".

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-Throat-Anatomy


RE: Amazing, AHI went down - Dog Slobber - 01-26-2019

While waiting for my septoplasty and turbinate reduction, I became dependant on nasal decongestants (oxymetazoline or Xylometazoline based) Believe me, you don't want to go down that road.

Here are some things I learned that can help reduce the impacts or even prevent nasal decongestion rebound, and help you get off nasal decongestants should you start suffering from rebound:
  • Use decongestant with a fluticasone based steroid, such as Flonase. See peer reviewed studies below that demonstrate decongestants and fluticasone increase effectiveness of steroid and reduce rebound.
  • only once per day, at night prior to bed.
  • only in one nostril, then switch nostrils after a few days.
  • cut the decongestant with saline solution. The goal is to use as little decongestant as possible tp open the airways.

Peer reviewed studies that demonstrate Fluticasone with Decongestion reduces impacts of rebound and increases effectiveness.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20203244
https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749%2811%2900126-6/fulltext

Having said that, and using the above precautions, I still became dependant. My doctor helped me get off decongestant by prescribing Prednisone and I believe the above precautions lessened the impacts.

But please be careful and routinely give yourself extended breaks from it.


RE: Amazing, AHI went down - Arik - 01-26-2019

(01-26-2019, 09:15 AM)Dog Slobber Wrote: While waiting for my septoplasty and turbinate reduction, I became dependant on nasal decongestants (oxymetazoline or Xylometazoline based) Believe me, you don't want to go down that road.

Here are some things I learned that can help reduce the impacts or even prevent nasal decongestion rebound, and help you get off nasal decongestants should you start suffering from rebound:
  • Use decongestant with a fluticasone based steroid, such as Flonase. See peer reviewed studies below that demonstrate decongestants and fluticasone increase effectiveness of steroid and reduce rebound.
  • only once per day, at night prior to bed.
  • only in one nostril, then switch nostrils after a few days.
  • cut the decongestant with saline solution. The goal is to use as little decongestant as possible tp open the airways.

Peer reviewed studies that demonstrate Fluticasone with Decongestion reduces impacts of rebound and increases effectiveness.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20203244
https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749%2811%2900126-6/fulltext

Having said that, and using the above precautions, I still became dependant. My doctor helped me get off decongestant by prescribing Prednisone and I believe the above precautions lessened the impacts.

But please be careful and routinely give yourself extended breaks from it.

Thanks!
Arik