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How long does it take? - Wanttosleep80 - 12-16-2019

How long does it take to get consistent 8 hours of sleep with the machine?  After a month wearing the machine is all over the place.  The sleep times can be 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 hours.  Also there is no improvement.  It's up and down all the time.  

I am wondering how long it takes as this is like a prison sentence for me.  I try to use it and sleep hasn't improved so I feel worse.  Already feeling socially and financially poor as I have lost a lot from lacking sleep.  It's very depressing.


RE: How long does it take? - Gideon - 12-16-2019

Welcome to the forum.
The answer is it varies.  
Step 1 is to make sure that your therapy is working for you and it sounds like not very well.

Here at AB we like to base our advice on data, not guesses, and the data we like to use is from OSCAR 
OSCAR provides a lot more detail that your medical team typically looks at so I very strongly urge you to Post a set of daily chart organized as per the link in my signature so we see the most important ones. This gives us the ability to say "THIS is what is happening and thus you need to change these settings for these reasons."


RE: How long does it take? - SarcasticDave94 - 12-16-2019

OK so how long does it take for you to post OSCAR data? Including this, 3 threads that I reviewed have a complaint from you and requests from AB members to post OSCAR. Crickets...No OSCAR data. Your complaint isn't valid because you give lip service and no other action. Post OSCAR data or don't. No more complaints if you won't do something about this.


RE: How long does it take? - OpalRose - 12-16-2019

Absolutely agree! I also just reviewed your previous threads. You were asked many times to post data.

Again, download OSCAR, insert your SD card in your computer and upload data.

Then follow the directions that many of us have in our signature lines and post a daily chart here.

We can’t help if you aren’t willing to do that.


RE: How long does it take? - SorryIamNormal - 12-16-2019

(12-16-2019, 10:17 AM)Wanttosleep80 Wrote: How long does it take to get consistent 8 hours of sleep with the machine?  After a month wearing the machine is all over the place.  The sleep times can be 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 hours.  Also there is no improvement.  It's up and down all the time.  

I am wondering how long it takes as this is like a prison sentence for me.  I try to use it and sleep hasn't improved so I feel worse.  Already feeling socially and financially poor as I have lost a lot from lacking sleep.  It's very depressing.

The real compliance rate for cpap is 50%.  It's not some miracle cure like all the cpap-pushers (all sleep drs) claim it to be.  They want you dependent and hooked for life.  Which is exactly what cpap does and is exactly what the business model is. 

You'll have to take matters into your own hands.  By downloading your data then posting it up so the more experienced members can dissect it for you.


RE: How long does it take? - Dormeo - 12-16-2019

Do you have a laptop or desktop computer? If not, do you have a friend, family member, or neighbor who would let you download Oscar onto their machine?

Do you have a computer but lack an SD card reader? They are very cheap and just plug into the computer.

If there is some other impediment to your using Oscar, please let us know so we can try to help.


RE: How long does it take? - Osiris357 - 12-16-2019

(12-16-2019, 10:17 AM)Wanttosleep80 Wrote: How long does it take to get consistent 8 hours of sleep with the machine?  After a month wearing the machine is all over the place.  The sleep times can be 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 hours.  Also there is no improvement.  It's up and down all the time.  

I am wondering how long it takes as this is like a prison sentence for me.  I try to use it and sleep hasn't improved so I feel worse.  Already feeling socially and financially poor as I have lost a lot from lacking sleep.  It's very depressing.

They need these charts from OSCAR in the following order or they cannot help you. Kind words will not fix this. Click the word OSCAR and it’ll bring you to the download.

Events
Flow rate
Pressure 
Leak rate
Flow limitations 
Snore

Without the data from those charts nothing can be done.


RE: How long does it take? - mesenteria - 12-16-2019

(12-16-2019, 10:17 AM)Wanttosleep80 Wrote: How long does it take to get consistent 8 hours of sleep with the machine?  After a month wearing the machine is all over the place.  The sleep times can be 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 hours.  Also there is no improvement.  It's up and down all the time.  

I am wondering how long it takes as this is like a prison sentence for me.  I try to use it and sleep hasn't improved so I feel worse.  Already feeling socially and financially poor as I have lost a lot from lacking sleep.  It's very depressing.

It's impossible to answer your questions.  Each patient is different.  Each night is different.  In fact, your goal of getting 'consistent 8 hours of sleep' is probably not remotely realistic for a number of reasons.  We don't know who you are, what you are experiencing, how you live, what you have in the way of 'other issues'...  Perhaps CPAP is the least of your worries?  If it is the most salient, along with sleep deprivation, and you are serious about getting relief from strangers, why not flesh out your circumstances in the way the strangers say they need you to do?  SUBMIT DATA!


RE: How long does it take? - SorryIamNormal - 12-16-2019

(12-16-2019, 01:30 PM)mesenteria Wrote:
(12-16-2019, 10:17 AM)Wanttosleep80 Wrote: How long does it take to get consistent 8 hours of sleep with the machine?  After a month wearing the machine is all over the place.  The sleep times can be 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 hours.  Also there is no improvement.  It's up and down all the time.  

I am wondering how long it takes as this is like a prison sentence for me.  I try to use it and sleep hasn't improved so I feel worse.  Already feeling socially and financially poor as I have lost a lot from lacking sleep.  It's very depressing.

It's impossible to answer your questions.  Each patient is different.  Each night is different.  In fact, your goal of getting 'consistent 8 hours of sleep' is probably not remotely realistic for a number of reasons.  We don't know who you are, what you are experiencing, how you live, what you have in the way of 'other issues'...  Perhaps CPAP is the least of your worries?  If it is the most salient, along with sleep deprivation, and you are serious about getting relief from strangers, why not flesh out your circumstances in the way the strangers say they need you to do?  SUBMIT DATA!

Wnattosleep80 I've been on it for 10 years and I've had ZERO improvement.  I know you are frustrated.  And in a way you are reacting in the exact way the medical system conditions its patients.  You are suppose to go, 'hat in hand' to the almighty physician and they 'make it better'.  Your job as patient is to be complaint and pay the bill.  Sometimes that works, kinda. 

Unfortunately the system is corrupt and you'll have to do it yourself.  With the help of others on the board.  You must submit your charts from OSCAR.  Just take screenshots.  Nothing can be done until you do this.


RE: How long does it take? - sheepless - 12-16-2019

monday must be a bad day to ask an innocent question. :-)

some people get quick relief and others take longer. I'm 3 years in and still waiting to wake up feeling good for more than one occasional day in a row. not all is lost though; for me it improves slowly and incrementally. no question it's going in the right direction. if you're not feeling better, something is wrong with your therapy and/or you have more than just apnea going on (an example in my case is periodic limb movement, but it can be a lot of things). digging into the data the machine produces will help you and other members figure it out.