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Does anyone know when ResMed is likely to replace the S10 with a new model? - green wings - 02-02-2021

Thanks.


RE: Does anyone know when ResMed is likely to replace the S10 with a new model? - srlevine1 - 02-02-2021

Sorry, ResMed is notoriously tight-lipped about new products in their pipeline. The first announcements can be found in the press release section or financial presentations available in the investor relations section of their website. Most new product announcements are clustered together as they continue to compete with the other companies for DME and institutional business. They have little consideration for end-users as their customers are the DMEs and institutions. Sometimes reps will let something slip as they are trained on the new product.

However, if anyone wants to leak ... this is the forum to do so for maximum impact.


RE: Does anyone know when ResMed is likely to replace the S10 with a new model? - Ol Grampy - 02-04-2021

I was about the post this same question.

I have used a ResMed Air Sense 10 AutoSet for 5 years and have an appointment today to get a new one.  I don't want to get it today and find out in 6 months their new model comes out (leaving me with 4.5 years till I can get it with insurance).  I see why they won't release this information because if I *knew* the new one was coming out in 6 months I would wait, and they don't want sales to dry up for 6 months.  I don't fault them for trying but hope I don't get faulted for trying either...

I had the same issue for years with an insulin pump.  I was caught in a cycle.  I would get a new pump and 6 months later the new one would come out.

The thing is there were rumors and in hindsight, the rumors were, more often than not, correct.  It was like the nurses I worked with did not want to influence my decision without hard facts, but they would let me know the rumors.  It was like using the word 'rumor' let them off the hook because in a worst-case scenario I would keep using a perfectly good pump for a few months longer.  If it broke, I would then without question get a new one.  On the last cycle, I listened to the rumors and waited a few months.  I am glad I did.

Sort of like Apple products.  Apple won't officially say when new iPhones will come out, but I'll bet there will be a new one in the October time-frame.

So, any rumors?   Rolleyes

And, if not, with the above in mind, does anyone know what is ResMed's release history?


RE: Does anyone know when ResMed is likely to replace the S10 with a new model? - SuperSleeper - 02-04-2021

Resmed is likely due for a new series at some point soon, if history is any guide.

S7 came out around 2002
S8 came out around 2005
S9 came out around 2009
AirSense 10 came out around 2014

It's now been 6+ years since the AirSense 10 came out, and that's the longest they've gone without a major series release.  So they're probably close to coming out with something new soon.   But given the Airbreak revelations, they may put development on hold until they can address the (now public) knowledge that all their machines are mechanically the same, with differences only in the firmware.

But, as srlevine1 said, they're tight-lipped about these sorts of things.

Eat-popcorn


RE: Does anyone know when ResMed is likely to replace the S10 with a new model? - srlevine1 - 02-04-2021

Agree with SuperSleeper - we are overdue -- just like earthquakes in California...

The S8 was announced in September 2005
The S9 was announced in April 2011 (5 years 7 months)
The S10 was announced in August  2014 (it is now 6 years, 6 months in 2/21)
AirMini - April 2017 (2 years, 8 months) 

Considering the form factor change between the S9 and S10, what could they change without simply 
enlarging the water chamber capacity,
upgrading the algorithm, 
upgrading the modem to 4g and 5G, 
adding Bluetooth connectivity,
adding Wi-Fi connectivity to eliminate the dial-up modem,
adding a better faceplate light with a switch and dimmer,
adding a time and alarm clock feature,
adding an off switch for the oximeter probe that is now continuously powered,
networking with other devices, 
adding an iPhone or Android setup-app (not all that desirable), and
including the DC-DC conversion feature in the power brick (now an optional unit)? 

Funny how that modification list looks like my wish list.

Forgot another date -- January 15, 2020, when Resmed Corp. to Pay the United States $37.5 Million for Allegedly Causing False Claims Related to the Sale of Equipment for Sleep Apnea and Other Sleep-Related Disorders

ResMed Corp., a manufacturer of durable medical equipment (DME) based in San Diego, California, has agreed to pay more than $37.5 million to resolve alleged False Claims Act violations for paying kickbacks to DME suppliers, sleep labs, and other health care providers, the Department of Justice announced today.    

Resmed Corp. to Pay the United States $37.5 Million for Allegedly Causing False Claims Related to the Sale of Equipment for Sleep Apnea and Other Sleep-Related Disorders | OPA | Department of Justice


RE: Does anyone know when ResMed is likely to replace the S10 with a new model? - Crimson Nape - 02-04-2021

What! No honorable mention of the AirStart?


RE: Does anyone know when ResMed is likely to replace the S10 with a new model? - srlevine1 - 02-04-2021

(02-04-2021, 03:40 PM)Crimson Nape Wrote: What!  No honorable mention of the AirStart?

What is honorable about a non-responsive single-pressure brick in the age of auto-titration?  Nice initial device for those with limited funds and no desire to experiment with their therapy. I wonder if you could side-load the advanced algorithm into the machine and get a better device for less money? Not FDA-approved modification procedure I am sure.


RE: Does anyone know when ResMed is likely to replace the S10 with a new model? - JohnnyH - 02-16-2021

I just thought about the same thing when I got my Resmed 10 autoset a month ago. Then I realized why worry. The past machine was great and did the job and ordered the newer same version model. I will save my concerns for upgrades with important things.


RE: Does anyone know when ResMed is likely to replace the S10 with a new model? - green wings - 02-18-2021

Thanks for the info. 

I’ve heard from a DME rep recently that Philips Respironics is going to replace the Dreamstation Auto CPAP later this year.


RE: Does anyone know when ResMed is likely to replace the S10 with a new model? - Hydrangea - 02-18-2021

(02-04-2021, 03:12 PM)SuperSleeper Wrote: But given the Airbreak revelations, they may put development on hold until they can address the (now public) knowledge that all their machines are mechanically the same, with differences only in the firmware.

Your link is dead.  But I'd love to read more about this (even though we've already known this to be true).  Where can I find the info?  Or can you give a good link?