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Changing from Pillows to Full Face Mask - theroefam - 04-15-2015

Hello again,
I've started my CPAP a little rough, but I'm currently heading down a better path (I hope).

The first two months I struggled using Pillows (I couldn't fall asleep or stay asleep). My original prescription was set at 6 (using a pillow during a sleep study), then upped to 7 to try and help my breathing for sleep. It helped some but not near enough.

I then tried a full face mask. Now sleeping is no problem. But the problem is my numbers went up and I don't feel well rested at all.

My numbers are.....
(5 day average before and after) -

Pillows_______Full Face
0.98____AHI____3.39
0.54____CA ____1.05
0.27____OA_____0.60
0.16_____H_____1.73

The numbers to me show a significant difference. I know they are both under 5 (which should be good). I'm staying asleep with the Full Face but come morning I'm just not feeling rested.

Should the pressure be adjusted when going to a Full Face. If so, should I go down to my original prescription or up to see if it helps?


RE: Changing from Pillows to Full Face Mask - Tez62 - 04-15-2015

theroefam, also if you can post your leaks rates especially the 95 percentile.


RE: Changing from Pillows to Full Face Mask - theroefam - 04-15-2015

The leak rates were both very low.

Between 0-6 at the 95% with Pillows
Between 0-4 at the 95% with Full face

I did change the setting on the ResMed A10 Elite


RE: Changing from Pillows to Full Face Mask - PaulaO2 - 04-15-2015

It could just be you are truly getting the treatment you need and are just playing catch up with your sleep. You need to give it some time. I've also made the switch from pillows to FFM (then back again). Make sure you have the FFM that fits you right. There are a lot out there. I have no idea what the 0-4 means on the A10s. Is that what the screen says or are you using software?

Either way, give it time. More than just a few nights. As long as the leaks stay low and the AHI is low, it could just be your body is enjoying sleeping too much and wants to stay there!


RE: Changing from Pillows to Full Face Mask - Tez62 - 04-15-2015

I agree with Paula, leave it a couple of months


RE: Changing from Pillows to Full Face Mask - trailrider - 04-15-2015

Welcome to the board theroafam!
I think just relax and stay the course for a week or so, then take a look at the data. The most important part is to keep with it. There are so man things to get used to on therapy, so give yourself time. It's not a race and anything under 5 is great. You may find your AHI numbers drop as you get used to everything. Many of us felt tired after starting therapy, as our bodies go "Yeah! I like this. MORE!"


RE: Changing from Pillows to Full Face Mask - archangle - 04-15-2015

Many people need a little more pressure with a FFM. The FFM can push your jaw back and make your airway a little smaller.


RE: Changing from Pillows to Full Face Mask - retired_guy - 04-15-2015

I agree with the others as to leave alone for a little while and see how you do.

The only thing I see that you might watch for is make sure your mask is not on too tight. A very low leak rate can be a sign of too tight, which could cause stress.



RE: Changing from Pillows to Full Face Mask - truetopath - 04-16-2015

I'm going to go with the leave it alone for a bit school of thought as well. When I was going through my mask search process, I noticed that my AHI's varied depending on the type of mask with FFM being the highest. Best of luck on the journey.


RE: Changing from Pillows to Full Face Mask - quiescence at last - 04-22-2015

I am FFM and often AHI under 5, rarely under 3. There is a bit more volume to fill with air, so the designed leak rate is higher and the reaction time of the machine to inhales and exhales has a greater lag time. That can be interesting if you have EPR or pressure relief settings high.

QAL