[Equipment] Brevida mask with Evora headgear

[BeauPetitNez]

SRee,
I did not realized that you installed the Evora headgear directly on the Brevida mask without any other adaptor.

Is this right ?  Is it very stable with no slack or mouvement during sleep.
So I can cancel the adaptor I made !

For the tiewrap I did it but after I posted my first pictures.  The adaptor I made have a stopper block that enter in the Brevida hole.

[40plus]

After struggeling for months with my new Brevida i orderd the Evora headgear and gave this marriage a try.

I first tried SRee´s solution because it doesent involve tape and seems like the better option. But when everything was tightend down the evora frame slipped too low on the Brevida (even if it seemed well placed before i started tightening the cable ties) frame thus slightly rubbing against the Brevida swivel on the top. But worse was that the angle of the Brevida pillows got wrong. They now blowed air straight into my nostril like to the back wall inside the nostril instead of slightly up the nostril.

So i went back and tried BeauPetitNez solution. Here with the tape i could better control the angle of the brevida frame to evora frame by holding it the way i wanted and then taping it secure. With the SRee solution you are kind of at the mercy of the cable ties and if you loop them like in the post and tighten them down you cant really make any adjustment; it will place itself the way it does really. But with the tape there is more room for making adjustment before securing everything.

Now i will say that i suspect that i squeezed the evora frame too much into the different curve of the brevida frame when trying SRee´s solution. Thus both mask was in tension against eachother. I think this is the main reason the pillows got misaligned. If i try SRee´s solution again i will try to keep the evora and brevida frame together, but not squeezing them together to the point where the plastic bends before securing with cable ties. This tension is probably what made the evora frame slip down on the brevida frame. Having it a little looser might adress the issue.

Anyway, if anyone also tries this stuff i thought i would share my experience.

The only question now is cleaning. It is VERY fiddly to keep the two different frames together and at the proper angle and tension while trying to tape. One would need an extra arm or two to do it easily. So i wont loosen this to clean the evora frame very often. Maybe once a month at the most. Using wet wipes should clean the frame enough i hope.

[Epark617]

One other thing I found, even if I have a "little nose" the best Brevida mask is the Medium/Large.
One reason is the bigger silicone cone, even if look a bit large, that make a much better seal rather the XS-S

Thank you for this comment, I'm trying the Brevida for the first time, and had a lot of trouble getting, and then trusting the seal using the XS-S. My nose measures 3.8cm, and the mask range is up 3.8cm for XS-S and 3.8+ for that medium/large so I'm going to give the larger one a try.

[rjltawhead]

I did this same "hack" with a Fisher & Paykel Pilairo Q mask (very similar to the Brevida) on a Evora headgear with excellent results. I used small cable ties and it looks like it was meant to fit and work together!

[BeauPetitNez]

Yes absoluteluy,  SRee had a very good idea to just use tiewraps. 
I did not check the stability because my adaptor works very fine since 2022 and don't need any other solutions.

If new users want to adapt Evora headgear on a Brevida, use the SRee method, easy and cheap.

Here in Quebec you need Rx for the first puirchase and after your first Rx is always accepted, my insurance companies aceept the cost at 70% and there are pressure to the gov to include in Health Cover...  sorry with T (the word in T) in USA.

I tried to convince F&P to change the Brevida headgear ... HUM no reaction until 3 years.
Don't understand a so "technical company" avoid to have the BEST MASK for nasal and nasal pillow users.

Thank you SRee, maybe your solution stop them ?

[40plus]

The Pilairo Q headgear, the one with straps on top of the head, will also fit the Brevida mask and keep it way more secure than the original Brevida headgear. And without having to tape or use cable ties.

[BeauPetitNez]

The Pilairo Q headgear, the one with straps on top of the head, will also fit the Brevida mask and keep it way more secure than the original Brevida headgear. And without having to tape or use cable ties.

Thank you 40PLUS.  
As all goes fine for me I stopped to search other solutions. This Pilairo Q is quite the same support as the Evora, and one advantage I see that it attach directly to the Brevida without any "technical work"  :-)
But with the Brevida + Evora, I never have to open any velcro to install and remove, because of the "very flexible" strap on the back of the head.  So your adjustment are ALWAYS as you wish.

Question :  Can you install and remove without having to undo any velcro ?

[40plus]

Yes the complete headgear incl the plastic hooks do fit the Brevida though the hooks dont fit as secure as the original Brevida hooks.

What i did was use a scissor to cut a m.m. or so off from the width of the band that holds the hooks. After that the original Brevida hooks will fit the Pilairo Q headgear band. As for the velcro thats something you only adjust once to fit your head. After that its slide on, slide off. No need to undo any velcro.