One week in+ No joy

[SarcasticDave94]

Something to realize with any CPAP, you can't expect it to record events accurately when you're awake. This is a machine for sleep therapy after all, and the sensors to determine wake vs sleep aren't included in the package.

If you'd like, share the OSCAR chart and we can see if anything can be advised on further optimization of the settings. I am a bit surprised that you'd rather give up on a new mask after only one night. Work at finding a way to make it work for you. We're here to help but there's no way to make you do it.

You can either fail by trying or fail to try. Myself, if I fail it's because I tried. I'm in about a 2 year therapy hiatus because ASV failed to work with me due to other health issues like COPD and/or Asthma. I'm still swinging at pitches, I've got a doc video chat today because I'm still trying to make it work.

[SCgargoyle]

I need sleep; that's why I want to quit. I slept about 3 hours last night. The thing is, I didn't have any daytime symptoms of OSA. I don't snore, I wake up refreshed, have plenty of energy all day long. Now I have all of the symptoms! There are times when the cure is worse than the problem. Perhaps the worst part is that I've had zero support from the medical community. The supplier is worthless, and calls and messages to the pulmonologist have gone unanswered so far. I'm completely on my own here. It's like going for swimming lessons, and they just throw you in the deep end and yell, "Swim!"

[staceyburke]

I went back and looked for chart in your posts and found none. You have posted for 8 days and members asked repeatedly for you to post charts and get some help. You say you are in this alone and some of the most knowledgeable people have responded but again no OSCAR?  I don’t understand, if you want help you must give them a way to help you.

[SCgargoyle]

I don't think the OSCAR results are meaningful with the leaks I'm getting. One night was 94%! That's why I'm frustrated; until I can find a mask that works for me, the data and therapy is pretty much meaningless.

[SarcasticDave94]

I've been my self advocate the whole time, and I know it's frustrating. We still may find something in OSCAR to help. But you are right on this aspect, a leaking mask with numbers like that will ruin anyone's therapy. Whichever one resulted in that leak number is probably not going to work. Have you viewed the mask wiki and gleaned anything that helps?

[SCgargoyle]

To be honest, I'm probably going to have to shave my beard to get good results. It's not a big woolly beard, but all of the masks seem to leak. I've gotten the leakage down by really cranking down on the mask, but then it hurts so much I can't sleep anyway. I tried a nasal pillow, but it showed a lot of leakage. I think that was from my mouth opening while I was asleep. I wore a chin strap, but there's no way that it will hold my mouth shut. All of the masks also make my mouth extremely dry, even though the humidifier uses up all of the water. Before I even get to sleep, my mouth is dry.

[SarcasticDave94]

There's a saying about masks, tight ain't right. On pillows mask, was it mouth leaks where maybe taping can help? Maybe try ResMed P10 in this case. If there's a chance the P10 can work, I know it works with those with beards.

Even so, here's the basics, get mask type figured out, pillows nasal and then full face or hybrid. Then get cushion size right for you. Finally adjust looser. Don't rely on Mask Fit. Lie back on the bed with therapy pressure. Hold mask in place no straps just finger tension, adjust finger tension to minimize leaks and minimal disruptions, add straps to mimic the same fit and feel. Move it around a bit to see if leaks can be controllable. Run with it.

Hint: no leaks and too tight is not the goal, MINIMAL to a controlled level is fine.

[SarcasticDave94]

Chin strap look at Knightsbridge Dual Band.

Dry mouth look up Xylimelts, they stick on your teeth, sorta like those Listerine breath strips is what I'm picturing.

[SCgargoyle]

I suspect the leaks with the P30 was from opening my mouth. It fit my nose well. No, I'm not going to tape my mouth shut!

As for tightness- I've read lots of articles about fitting a mask. I've tried completely loose, and then tightening by tiny increments. By the time the leakage is tolerable, it's very tight and painful. My nose is numb half of the next day. If the mask is uncomfortable, I only sleep a few hours, then can't back to sleep unless I take it off.

[SarcasticDave94]

Then the mask was probably the wrong size or not a good fit in some way. My Vitera mask is loose and didn't leak but a minimal amount. Moving it downward took care of that small amount.