Strong Chin Strap Recommendation?

[mcman56]

I have been on CPAP for a few years now but have never been able to find an acceptable chin strap.  The best I have found is the Respironics Premium Chin Strap.  However to get enough clamp power, I have to severely overlap the top strap and make the side straps tight enough hey get close to tearing out.  So it becomes sort of a twisted mess difficult to get straight when I put it on.  I'll add a picture but don't know how easy it will be to see.  I tried one of the purple? foam types but it was too hot and I think too loose.  I just ordered a halo type from Amazon but even with the straps as tight as possible there is not enough force.  There were probably a couple of others.  Everything seems too stretchy.

I wear an XL helmet and have a small chin plus short facial hair.  I am a lifelong mouth breather with a usually stuffy nose.  I see a lot of things about tape but even the thought of it sounds suffocating and makes me cringe.  I have been using an Evora Nasal mask so I tried a full face mask and could not get it to seal.

Are there any recommendations?  I don't want the heat of something wide but need something less stretchy.

   

[Deborah K.]

If you are using it to keep your mouth closed, good luck. My husband wore one for years. They constantly stretched out and did not work very well. I finally convinced him to try mouth tape, things are much better, and he's more comfortable.