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Time to optimize treatment?
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Time to optimize treatment?
I'm new to APAP. I've been using a Resmed AirSense 11 Autoset machine with an Airfit F30i mask for the past three weeks. Overall I would say I can tell it is helping me in that I am not fatigued to the point of uselessness all day. I don't feel wide awake, but overly tired. At some point during the day I do hit a wall and have to lay down for a few minutes, but then get through the rest of the day the way I start it. So I'm hopeful with more time I'll be feeling even better - I have been told it might take up to a year. The real test will be after I once again try and rid myself of my Mountain Dew addiction.

I was diagnosed with moderate sleep apnea, an AHI of 24.6. And spent 108 minutes with blood oxygen levels below 90. This data came from an at home sleep study and all I received is a summary. I was "prescribed" and APAP with settings of 5-15 cmH20 and 2 cmH20 of EPR. The machine I received was also setup with autoramp, but I have since changed that to 5 minutes. Could probably turn it completely off but figure that time can be used to get into my preferred sleep position letting the mask do its thing to seal onto my face. I have been sleeping on my side more lately usually sleep in a prone position (almost never on my back.)

I did wade through a thread on pulse oximeters and did find posts from stew51 and Pierelly about using code provided by klimd on codeberg that works with the Contec CMS50f. I purchased one and use it every few nights. It is very uncomfortable; I have made a wristband to provide a bit of cushion that helps some. On occasion the download fails, I have a theory as to the sequence of events that trigger this situation. On the nights I do get get data I now see that my oxygen levels only briefly dip low (3-5 minutes.)

There have been a couple nights in which my AHI has been between 7 and 8, but most nights it is below 5; OSCAR shows a median AHI of 3.07. The predominate events I have most nights are clear airway. I have been reading the wiki on optimizing therapy and have learned that they may be treatment induced. They do seem to occur at lower pressures as well as when they are higher.

I will be meeting with my doctor in a few weeks to discuss the efficacy of my treatment. But he is just a general practitioner and I'm sure the discussion will be limited to if I'm feeling better and meeting the conformance requirements for my insurance (which I am.)

I'm wondering if I should just leave things alone or whether I should make some changes to optimize my treatment. The wiki does mention that the treatment induced CAs might resolve themselves after several more weeks as I adjust. I have also read some threads mentioning decrease the amount of EPR or turning it off completely. Also wondering if I should adjust my levels. There seems to be a consensus on the threads I've read that indicate the minimum should be 7 for an adult. As to the maximum pressure it is below 11.5 most of the time. I wonder if in part the higher pressures are due to my deviated septum and congestion in my other nostril (or my mask becoming misaligned.) I'm considering lowering the upper limit to 10 or 11.

I'm attaching five screenshots from last night's session - four of them show all the graphs for the entire night and one of them is a closeup of a cluster of CA events. Oops, just see there is a three file attachment limit: I'll just post two of them.

       
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RE: Time to optimize treatment?
Welcome

I suggest raising your starting pressure to 8, as your median pressure is a little over that.

Also, raise your ramp pressure to 6.

Again, welcome, and best wishes for achieving great therapy and comfort! Smile
Machine:  ResMed AirCurve 10 Vauto
Mask:  Bleep DreamPort Sleep Solution and F&P Nova Micro

Link to thread about switching from Autoset to Bilevel:
https://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread...+a+bilevel

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RE: Time to optimize treatment?
Welcome to Apnea Board,

Even if you went to a sleep specialist, your upcoming face to face visit about the CPAP will be about do you feel better and are you using CPAP. They can't be bothered by getting into details, maybe because they may not be a true specialist. That doesn't matter though as your primary should be good enough for your CPAP needs.

Time to edit settings? Yes. Your median EPAP was just over 6, and median pressure is over 8. I'd choose minimum starting about 7 and maybe moving to towards 8 in a bit.

Your Flow Limits can use a bit of attention in my opinion. After the pressure edit to at least minimum 7, this will allow room for EPR 3 full time. Your current EPR 2 doesn't work fully yet because of the min 5. EPR is Exhale Pressure Relief, and your CPAP can't reduce below 4, which is what is trying to attempt with min 5 minus EPR 2 to drop to 3.

Eventually you'll probably want to turn the Ramp off.
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RE: Time to optimize treatment?
Thanks for your recommendations. I have adjusted my pressure settings and will see how things go for a few weeks.
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