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Mouth breathers/me too/harm/special tape/causes/correct/mitigate-no chin strap - 2SleepBetta - 07-12-2021
The main point here: see Mouth Breathing Causes, Treatments And Consequences - Buteyko Clinic and the link to that clinic below the article title.
First of all, I'm convinced that it is only those mask users who truly cannot ventilate through the nose who must mouthbreathe. It can be stopped by other mouth breathers; we have to adapt to whatever means are necessary. My successful measures are too onerous for many persons to accept unless they are desperate. Breaking away from FFM was not that hard. Every improvement I made took at most a few nights to adapt. Stents, a bovine valve and a pacemaker were persuasive. I attach a pic showing (hidden, covered) use of (click) Gel-e-Roll-seal (by Silipos) and its elastic DIY retainer as well as a vest mounted supinity block (a vest-knapsack holding two nested boxes, which I only lately found was not necessary, the benefits of a--now--4" cervical collar). I needed firm pressure against the clinging (but not sticking) seal so I used the elastic top from a worn out compression stocking and velcro to make a retainer. Others may get by with less, like a (click) Scunci
For too long I believed I had to use a FFM because of mouthbreathing and a mouth that gaped open supine and with lips that fluttered in CPAP sleep. At least with a FFM mask, that driest--skinned lizard that used to crawl into my mouth could not get in with my mask mounted. I tried a whole variety of chin straps, tapes, etc., but was driven by sleepless frustration with leaks and noises of several FFMs and hybrids to find a way to use nasal pillows, the P-10 for a few years now--with a cervical collar I was slow to adopt.
Now, LL is rare and L is mostly well below 10 L/min--no more awakenings to mask noises and loss of therapy. The P-10 relies on both minimal skin to pillows contact and, with the exception of the "bleep", I believe it has least need to bridge over contour variations of nose and face. This sidesleeper has no complaint; a large head spares me those strap loosening problems which, most crudely, even one scissors snip and a staple will fix if shrinkage after washing does not.
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RE: Mouth breathers/me too/harm/special tape/causes/correct/mitigate-no chin strap - factor - 07-12-2021
People that are mouth-breathers in general have forgotten how to breathe through the nose. It is very common. Due to having OSA untreated for so long the body uses any means necessary to keep you alive. Hence mouth breathing. It usually can take up to 6 weeks or more to retrain your body to breathe through the nose.
Mouth exercises
https://youtu.be/wNscQ3bGxNk
Nose retraining
https://youtu.be/iB9BRJbEvVg
RE: Mouth breathers/me too/harm/special tape/causes/correct/mitigate-no chin strap - DaveL - 11-07-2021
@factor
Brent I only learned how to mouth breath about 5? years ago. (edit: sitting here wide awake 10:30 a.m. and mouth breathing as I type. No cpap running....)
The previous 30 years or so I was fine. I've been compliant for about 35 years or so....
Meantime I have a bunch of collections
*carefully chosen devices that never worked.
* devices that worked for a while
* headgear and such that's worn out, but I never know when I might need them.
I currently use either of these two devices
* a pad I made up myself that's very comfortable, but goes from working beautifully to not-being-worth-a-c*ap overnight
* Knightsbridge Dual Band. I have 2. My scalp itches like crazy after I've used it. I bought 2 of them about 16 months ago, so I have a spare.
Frankly I'm reaching the w-t-* phase. I do all these things and treatment is awful.