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srlevine1
Posts: 1,441 Threads: 132 Joined: Sep 2015
Machine: ResMed Airsense Autoset (S10)
06-14-2023, 11:51 PM
CHINESE KNOCK-OFF CPAP
Does anyone have any experience with inexpensive Chinese knockoffs of ResMed's S10 Autoset as seen on Alibaba?
"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
Psychotech
Posts: 130 Threads: 6 Joined: Feb 2022
Machine: bmc G3 A20
06-15-2023, 04:50 AM
RE: CHINESE KNOCK-OFF CPAP
are you talking about bmc/3b cpap?, if yes then i use one its been 1yr still didn't face any problem till yet
Kingsway
Posts: 68 Threads: 10 Joined: May 2023
Machine: Sefam S.Box
06-15-2023, 10:33 AM
RE: CHINESE KNOCK-OFF CPAP
According to a recent video by one of our Australian friends, even one of the latest Philips machines can have what seems a be a very ineffficient algororithm, compared to the Resmed...
So you could buy a more affordable machine that looks good, and has a nice UI and big screen etc., but not be able to assess how well it works on automatic until you get it home? But maybe thats true of any machine! 
“Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves.” - DH Lawrence
BigData
Posts: 7 Threads: 2 Joined: Jun 2023
Machine: Resmed Airsense 11
06-15-2023, 02:18 PM
RE: CHINESE KNOCK-OFF CPAP
No experience with these but I would be wary of them myself.
srlevine1
Posts: 1,441 Threads: 132 Joined: Sep 2015
Machine: ResMed Airsense Autoset (S10)
06-15-2023, 02:46 PM
RE: CHINESE KNOCK-OFF CPAP
Anahai brand portable CPAP Machine for Sleep Apnea
Portable Auto CPAP Machine with Humidifier for Home Now shown on Amazon under a search for "ResMed" And there are others on Amazon not requiring an Rx.
"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
Kingsway
Posts: 68 Threads: 10 Joined: May 2023
Machine: Sefam S.Box
RE: CHINESE KNOCK-OFF CPAP
The only way to really know how they perform would be to sponsor a study, such as the one paid-for by Resmed, which used a 'robotic patient' to standardise all the tests, then compare the resulting performance of various machines.
The Prisma 20a and te F&P Icon came out on top - in fact they were the only ones that really do the job on Auto! The Resmed A10 Autoset was not great... and the Philips machine was the absolute pits! I think at least one of the test subjects was a Chinese Special' and also did not come out too well... So maybe Fixed Pressure is the way to go??
“Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves.” - DH Lawrence
Sleeprider
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Posts: 27,823 Threads: 87 Joined: Dec 2014
Machine: Resmed Aircurve 10 VAuto
06-15-2023, 04:56 PM
RE: CHINESE KNOCK-OFF CPAP
I found the Anahai machine on Amazon, and it sells for $999 which is higher than retail from Supplier #1 for a Resmed Airsense 10 or 11. It's also likely an illegal sale on Amazon. As far as my limited research went, I see no FDA approval for this machine.
Sleeprider
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Jeff8356
Posts: 2,149 Threads: 92 Joined: Oct 2019
Machine: ResMed Airsense 10 Autoset
06-15-2023, 09:44 PM
RE: CHINESE KNOCK-OFF CPAP
(06-15-2023, 04:56 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: ... It's also likely an illegal sale on Amazon... From experience with Amazon I can tell you they don't care in the slightest! A seller signs an agreement with Amzon that they will abide by any applicable laws. Amazon looks the other way since many of these machines are listed as sleep aids and not PAP machines. Amazon gets their percentage and the seller gets a sale. Plain and simple. It is so prolific that it would take the FDA years to ferret out all these questionable devices. In the mean time consumers are spending their hard earned money to acquire them. Capitalism at its finest!
Jeff8356
MacBook Air (2017, Intel) | macOS Monterey (12.7) | OSCAR v1.5.1 | VM = Win10/Win11 | How to Links: Installing OSCAR on a Mac Organizing your OSCAR charts Attaching screenshots and files for the forum OSCAR Help OSCAR - The Guide INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
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