Post Reply 
Central occurences
Author Message
GreyParrot Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 53
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: ResMed S9 Elite
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Mirage Quattro
Humidifier: H5i-Unused
CPAP Pressure: 12.5
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location:

Post: #1
Central occurences
I've gotten rid of all obstructive incidents for days now but every
night I still get 2 or 3 centrals of about 10-13 seconds. Is there
anything that can or should be done with these?
12-28-2013 05:21 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Lukie Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 352
Joined: Nov 2013

Machine: Resmed S9 Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Airfit F 10
Humidifier: H I heated tubing resmed
CPAP Pressure: 6-16
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Masks: Simplus, Air, Quattro fx, Nano, Eson, Swift fx and Activ

Sex: Female
Location: Vermont

Post: #2
RE: Central occurences
I really don't know much about it but I do know that the S9 autoset can detect the difference between a central and an obstructive apnea and will not increase pressure for a central apnea which could make it worse.
High pressures can trigger central apneas from what I can understand.
I would check with your doctor if you are concerned. But if your AHI is under 5 you are probably okay.
12-28-2013 05:49 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
DeepBreathing Offline
Wiki Editor
Moderators

Posts: 2,295
Joined: Sep 2013

Machine: Resmed S9 VPAP Adapt
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Resmed H5i
CPAP Pressure: EPAP: 9 - 15 PS: 3 - 10
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Perth, Western Australia

Post: #3
RE: Central occurences
(12-28-2013 05:21 PM)GreyParrot Wrote:  I've gotten rid of all obstructive incidents for days now but every
night I still get 2 or 3 centrals of about 10-13 seconds. Is there
anything that can or should be done with these?

Two or three short centrals a night is probably nothing to be concerned about. They may have been caused by the CPAP pressure, in which case they will likely resolve themselves over a few weeks or months. Alternatively they might be occurring spontaneously, especially in the transition in / out of sleep. In either case, I wouldn't worry.

DeepBreathing
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com


Bed

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
(This post was last modified: 12-28-2013 08:18 PM by DeepBreathing.)
12-28-2013 06:36 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
zonk Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 7,908
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: A10 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Activa LT
Humidifier: Integrated /ClimateLineAir
CPAP Pressure: 9/13
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments: CPAP since Nov 2010

Sex: Male
Location: Australia

Post: #4
RE: Central occurences
There are all sort of maybe, would we worry about such small number of events?
we don,t know if there are pressure induced or awake events but your AHI is less than 1, anything at or below 5 considered good result
Keep in mind, the lower AHI is the better but its not expected or feasible to have zero AHI every night, some apnea events will slip through even with the most optimized treatment. Even with no apnea scored , flow limitation are not apnea events (more like mini apnea) but can disturb your sleep as much or more than an apnea if persist during the night

Experiment with EPR ... off, level 1, level 2, level 3, and see the outcome
Lowering pressure somewhat may help, its a compromise between couples of obstructive or couples of central
What are your leak numbers?
12-28-2013 06:39 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
PaulaO2 Offline
Wiki Editor
Moderators

Posts: 8,065
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 14-20
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, Hypermobility Type; chronic sarcasm

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: western NC, USA

Post: #5
RE: Central occurences
Just two or three a night? Nope, don't worry about them.

Probably we all have them, even folks without sleep apnea. Dreams, rolling over, who knows.

As long as the AHI stays below 5 and you are feeling good, don't worry about them.

PaulaO2
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com


Breathe deeply and count to zen.

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
12-28-2013 07:35 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
DOOM_NX Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 155
Joined: May 2013

Machine: ResMed S9 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Weinmann JOYCE SilkGel
Humidifier: ResMed H5i + ClimateLine (not using year-round)
CPAP Pressure: 5–16 cmH2O
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: 12/2011: Mild SAS (AHI 14.5) - 10/2013: Severe SAS (AHI 78.7) - Using AutoCPAP: AHI 1.4

Sex: Male
Location: Greece

Post: #6
RE: Central occurences
Yeah, don't worry about such a low number of central apneas Smile
12-28-2013 08:32 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
physicsstudent13 Offline

Members-b

Posts: 22
Joined: Nov 2013

Machine: Phillips bipap autosv
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Amara
Humidifier: Phillips
CPAP Pressure: 4-12cm
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location:

Post: #7
RE: Central occurences
I get heavy fog and trouble thinking with my central apnea. so if I increase the epap to like 8-12cm on the phillips asv that will help? I think the auto setting is driving my breathing too hard, but maybe I have more energy on it at least.
what should my max ipap be 18cm or 25cm?
12-29-2013 06:11 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
me50 Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 2,559
Joined: Aug 2013

Machine: resmed S9 VPAP Auto
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Wisp and Silicone Head gear
Humidifier: resmed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 18/8
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: USA

Post: #8
RE: Central occurences
(12-29-2013 06:11 AM)physicsstudent13 Wrote:  I get heavy fog and trouble thinking with my central apnea. so if I increase the epap to like 8-12cm on the phillips asv that will help? I think the auto setting is driving my breathing too hard, but maybe I have more energy on it at least.
what should my max ipap be 18cm or 25cm?

You should talk with your doctor about your concerns.

EDIT: We don't know what medication you take, we don't know your medical history like your doctor does so your concerns should first be discussed with your doctor to see if there is something else causing your issues.
(This post was last modified: 12-29-2013 06:57 AM by me50.)
12-29-2013 06:53 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  Upset about central apnea sleepytimegal 6 239 12-03-2016 11:54 AM
Last Post: PaulaO2
  ASV/ Central apena - Time for a second opinion? Feisty Folder 6 328 11-21-2016 04:14 AM
Last Post: DeepBreathing
  Central Sleep Apnea? wayne99 8 743 11-20-2016 06:39 AM
Last Post: wayne99
Question Any Way To Reduce Central Sleep Apnea without PAP? DeepThought 7 644 09-07-2016 04:47 PM
Last Post: DeepThought
  Low respiration rate triggers central apnea clusters Grandpapa-G 6 523 09-06-2016 10:57 PM
Last Post: PaytonA
  Clear/Central Apneas, BiPAP, CO2 washout confusion. NorthernGuy 3 483 09-02-2016 09:29 AM
Last Post: PaytonA
  Central Apneas & ASV Users jerrydaw 11 1,142 08-21-2016 04:15 PM
Last Post: ruach

Forum Jump:

Who's Online (Complete List)