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Geniale Offline

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CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: UARS

Sex: Female
Location: Canada

Post: #1
Question Your opinion on these machines...
I'm hesitating between these two machines:

ResMed Gently Used S9 AutoSet CPAP with EPR + Heated Humidifier with New Climateline Tubing

Philips Respironics New, Factory Sealed System One REMstar® Auto CPAP System with AFLEX® + Heated Humidifier (possible option of adding a Thermal Tubing Conversion Kit)

The prices for two are comparable, the new PR is $50 less than the ResMed (without the thermal tubing kit).

Which would you choose and why?

Also, is it worth paying extra for the thermal tubing? What are its advantages?
What is the difference (besides colour) between the ResMed and the ResMed for Her?

Thanks
01-14-2016 11:00 AM
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OpalRose Offline

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Machine: PR System One REMstar Auto 560 with A Flex
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Humidifier: REMStar heated humidifier with heated hose
CPAP Pressure: Auto Cpap 10-13 AFLEX 1
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

Other Comments: Started CPAP Therapy October 23, 2014

Sex: Female
Location: Northeast Ohio, USA

Post: #2
RE: Your opinion on these machines...
(01-14-2016 11:00 AM)Geniale Wrote:  I'm hesitating between these two machines:

ResMed Gently Used S9 AutoSet CPAP with EPR + Heated Humidifier with New Climateline Tubing

Philips Respironics New, Factory Sealed System One REMstar® Auto CPAP System with AFLEX® + Heated Humidifier (possible option of adding a Thermal Tubing Conversion Kit)

The prices for two are comparable, the new PR is $50 less than the ResMed (without the thermal tubing kit).

Which would you choose and why?

Also, is it worth paying extra for the thermal tubing? What are its advantages?
What is the difference (besides colour) between the ResMed and the ResMed for Her?

Thanks


The S9 is a very good machine from what I've observed from folk that use it here, but I guess I'm a little biased because I use a PR Systtem One APAP.

The S9 probably has about 500 hours on it....did you ask what the warranty was compared to the new PR APAP?

The heated tubing was a game changer for me. No rainout, no condensation, more comfort.

The PR System One is new, no hours on it and I assume has a 2 year warranty, whereas the S9 probably has a 6 month warranty.

No brainer.... The PR System One with heated tube. My 2 cents. Big Grin

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01-14-2016 11:14 AM
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Geniale Offline

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CPAP Software: SleepyHead

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RE: Your opinion on these machines...
(01-14-2016 11:14 AM)OpalRose Wrote:  The S9 probably has about 500 hours on it....did you ask what the warranty was compared to the new PR APAP?

Many thanks for your reply!

The S9 comes with a 1-year warranty whereas the PR has a 2-year warranty.
01-14-2016 11:20 AM
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Sleeprider Offline
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Machine: Resmed Aircurve 10 Vauto
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RE: Your opinion on these machines...
Both machines give comparable therapy. Exhalation relief is different, with the Resmed offering up to 3 cm EPR and Respiroinics AFlex providing 2 cm of relief with different timing. Both are full data machines, but only the PRS1 will report RERA if that is important to you. A heated hose addition for the PRS1 retails for $75, and I definitely think heated tubing is worthwhile for comfort and to prevent condensation. I'm aware of a new "REMstar Auto with humidifier, SD card and heated tube" on Amazon for $415, so that is another price point for consideration, and no need to worry about a used machine.

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01-14-2016 12:37 PM
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trish6hundred Offline

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Post: #5
RE: Your opinion on these machines...
Hi Geniale,
Both machines are comparable, but I would opt for the PR because with it, it is new and it has a 2-year warranty instead of 1-year.
Good luck on your machine decision and hang in there for more suggestions.

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01-14-2016 04:02 PM
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zonk Offline

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Location: Australia

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RE: Your opinion on these machines...
(01-14-2016 11:00 AM)Geniale Wrote:  Which would you choose and why?

Also, is it worth paying extra for the thermal tubing? What are its advantages?
What is the difference (besides colour) between the ResMed and the ResMed for Her?

Thanks
Depend on the run hours, gently used can be anything from few hours, couple of hundred hours, or even couple thousand hours
If on the low side, I'll go with S9 AutoSet, as for why .... I haven't used PR machines and biased towards ResMed Smile

The heated hose can make life easier but not absolute necessity
As far as S9 AutoSet concerned, both versions are the same with the exception of the colour, for Her model is pink
AirSense 10 AutoSet and AirSense 10 AutoSet for Her, the difference is more than just colour
for Her model have an extra mode "AutoSet for Her" designed to respond less aggressively
Not sure, if for real or just marketing but suppose the jury is still out
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01-14-2016 04:27 PM
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Post: #7
RE: Your opinion on these machines...
Two other considerations:

The S9 only has 7 days of full data on the card. You have to download the data at least every 7 days or you lose the detailed data. I believe that changed with the A10.

The PRS1s keep data on the card much longer.

and

The data available for easy viewing on the screen is different. The S9 shows a lot more data at a glance than the PRS1.


Before purchasing, download the clinician manuals for both. Pretend you want to get to the pressure to change it. Go through the manual and see what steps it takes to do it.

Oh, and the clock on the S9 can be changed but the PRS1 cannot. It is stuck in GST.

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01-14-2016 04:52 PM
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Ghost1958 Offline

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Post: #8
RE: Your opinion on these machines...
Having used both now PRS1 hands down.
Reasons. Less cost longer warrenty
Will run on DC without a inverter or just plug into a plain non inverted generator and it will run fine on those back up power sources.

Aflex Cflex or cflex plus exhalation relive.
Cflex is about like EPR. Aflex CFLEX plus are more flow based.


More info on screen than s9 with a twist of a knob inluding periodic breathing and percent of night in large leak plus AHi.
On sleepy head PRS1 shows more info unless you go to A10 for her.

Get the heated tube. With it you will not have rain out on the PRS1 using the lowest temp setting so you dont have breathe hot air if you dont want too.

The Resmed is a good machine no doubt.
PRS1 just has alot more going for it in a lot of different areas . JMO
01-14-2016 10:34 PM
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Post: #9
RE: Your opinion on these machines...
(01-14-2016 11:00 AM)Geniale Wrote:  I'm hesitating between these two machines:

ResMed Gently Used S9 AutoSet CPAP with EPR + Heated Humidifier with New Climateline Tubing

Philips Respironics New, Factory Sealed System One REMstar® Auto CPAP System with AFLEX® + Heated Humidifier (possible option of adding a Thermal Tubing Conversion Kit)

Hi Geniale,

Those are both very fine machines for standard Obstructive Sleep Apnea, but neither of those "APAP" machines are able to treat UARS as well as a bilevel machine can.

I suggest saving up and getting the Gently Used Respironics System One DS760 BIPAP Auto, as suggested in this post:
http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...#pid145861

Yes, it would take a little more money up front, but I think the long term protection of your health and quality of life (by adequately treating your UARS) is what is most important. And really, in the long run, the BiPAP Auto would not cost much more.

Good luck whichever way you choose,
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01-15-2016 02:17 AM
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Mutineer Offline

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Post: #10
RE: Your opinion on these machines...
I have both a Resmed S9 Autoset and a PRS1 Series sixty Remstar Cpap with C Flex...no contest PR Remstar wins hands down with the results achieved..
01-15-2016 05:33 AM
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