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Looking for some help - almost 5 years and not feeling a lot better
RE: Looking for some help - almost 5 years and not feeling a lot better
From what I gather from other members, it is the same headgear and both type of masks will fit it. I don't have an answer about the 'stache.
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RE: Looking for some help - almost 5 years and not feeling a lot better
@SarcasticDave94  It seems to me that your masks aren't right fitting in some way. They shouldn't need to be tight or that indicates ill-fitting. Pillows masks do have the bits very slightly into the nostrils but not by much.

Can a small Simplus cushion fit in a med/large frame?  Maybe the cushion is too large for me to seal properly.  I have to crank down the upper straps so that the forehead piece touches my forehead to seal.  Otherwise it blows full force into my eyes.  Have a narrow bridge at the top of my nose.  When I see videos of people wearing the Simplus, it does not look like what I do at all.  The forehead piece is far from the forehead.
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RE: Looking for some help - almost 5 years and not feeling a lot better
It shouldn't be touching your forehead. This is too tight and will create a cantilever effect of the lower mask seal as well as not allowing the seal to fully expand for a proper seal. The lower straps act as the main seal tension. The upper straps should be rather loose. Also, Simplus and Vitera appear to work better in a lower position on the face.
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RE: Looking for some help - almost 5 years and not feeling a lot better
Ok, did some pruning, so at least I can post a few screenshots.  Last night.
   
Looks ok, but I don't feel so ok.  Headache, in sinus area.  Dragging.  F10 mask, chin strap to keep it from riding upward.
Expiratory issues (palatal prolapse) from 22:56-23:12, and 23:21-23:44, plus random others varying from 30 seconds to 2 minutes through the night.
Wearing a collar.  Low single pillow.  Seemingly low sensitivity to some flow limit events.  (No action or reduce pressure.)  Third day at PS 4.2 over 9.4-15.  Slightly more aerophagia, but ok.

Yesterday was relatively good.  Meaning similar AHI (1.10), but felt much better than today (1.08).  Not much aerophagia.

Day before was my Simplus night from Hades.  AHI=1.98.  Sores on face.  Little water in mask.  Splitting headache.  Leaks in mask, flutter or farting all night.  9 CA's, probably due to pressure change.  (Was PS=4.2 over 9.0-14.6 the day before)  Aerophagia.

Any settings to change?  Let it stay for a while?  It may look ok, but I feel un-refreshed and headachey.
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RE: Looking for some help - almost 5 years and not feeling a lot better
@CrimsonNape said:  It shouldn't be touching your forehead. This is too tight and will create a cantilever effect of the lower mask seal as well as not allowing the seal to fully expand for a proper seal. The lower straps act as the main seal tension. The upper straps should be rather loose. Also, Simplus and Vitera appear to work better in a lower position on the face.

Yes, I can see from some of the videos.  I actually had to fashion a chin strap to keep the cushion from riding up.  I will work on it some more, squinting in a mirror.  The cushion is resting on the bump of my chin.  Can't go further down.  Or it will fall off.  Maybe the cushion needs to be smaller to fit me better.

Initially, when I thought I had it correct, there was 0 seal at the nose.  A lot of air went into my eyes.  Have a narrow bridge.  I'll give it a try again, once the sore heals.  Sore is still a little raw.
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RE: Looking for some help - almost 5 years and not feeling a lot better
N30i and P30i may use the same frame, headgear. I've both cushions, I'd gotten the N30i and later P30i cushions.

The Simplus support should not touch, mine for Vitera gets close but did not touch, so I suspect not fitted/suited for your features. Definitely something isn't correct for you and this.

I was not able to find my N/P frame but there's an internet image of the cushions. N30i and P30i.

       
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RE: Looking for some help - almost 5 years and not feeling a lot better
Maybe this image gives idea how Vitera should look while wearing. I'll try to add in a Simplus too. My forehead support didn't seem as close as this image.

Vitera then Simplus

       
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RE: Looking for some help - almost 5 years and not feeling a lot better
I suspect the Simplus headgear is too large.  I can't get it to look the same way as in the picture.  I'm near the limit for adjustment, as in the velcro patches nearly touch in the back.  I ordered a small seal and headgear.  Maybe between all the pieces I have I can cobble something together.  When I adjusted it per the picture, the leak past the bridge of my nose was like a hurricane.  It could be, that it just doesn't fit me.  So in a week maybe I'll have enough assorted sizes and pieces to try the Simplus again.  Fortunately, this experiment isn't too costly.

As for the nasal mask, I think I had tried something like the P30i cushions, but they were longer and uglier.  More like little accordions.  May have been prongs.  Might try the N30i in the hopes of giving up full face.  First, I'll see if the Simplus could work.

When I was at the dentist today, I asked if there were any dental fixtures that could prevent rearward jaw movement.  You'd think I had a hole in my head.  My dentist obviously never experienced the delights of CPAP nor full face masks.  Of course he mentioned some appliance that allegedly treated apnea.  I told him that I had looked into that and they had low efficacy.  He claimed he did not know of such a simple device that I was describing.  Oh well, it was worth an ask.  Maybe a modified mouth guard might work.
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